This interview with Kari Lake, just nominated to lead Voice of America, was conducted by British jourmalist Emily Maitlis in July 2024 during Lake’s failed senatorial campaign. Voice of America's mission statement reads, in part:

“An essential guarantee of the journalistic credibility of Voice of America content is the “firewall” enshrined in the 1994 U.S. International Broadcasting Act. The firewall prohibits interference by any U.S. government official in the objective, independent reporting of news, thereby safeguarding the ability of our journalists to develop content that reflects the highest professional standards of journalism, free of political interference.”

Maitlis’s interview, which unravels Lake's election denialism and triggers her allergy to facts, serves as a reminder of how effective serious journalism can be—and how rare interviews of this depth and caliber with pollitical figures seem to have become in this country. (It also served as inspiration for this Instagram meme.)